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Dilan Esper's avatar

I don't think this is that unusual or groundbreaking. It has always been the case that if a litigant makes public statements at odds with their court case, a court might judicially notice them (lawful because nobody can seriously contest that this is something President Trump actually said) and cite them in whatever order it issues (also lawful because party admissions are not hearsay). This is a big reason we litigators tell clients to use care in making public statements during ongoing litigation. That's not new.

Nor do I think this is comparable to the exclusion of presidential statements in the Muslim Ban case. The difference is the statements there were being used to show the discriminatory intent of the policy, and, especially in the immigration context where national origin discrimination has been legal for a century and a half, that discriminatory intent is just irrelevant.

Whereas the President's intention to deport United States citizens to a foreign prison is MASSIVELY relevant to the scope of due process protections for deportees. It's just a different situation.

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I do wonder, and perhaps this is overly formalist of me given the realist bent of Dan's post, whether the nature of the relief sought plays a part. Here we're talking about stays and mandamus, the former of which is unusual intervention the former of which is effectively equitable intervention in the trial proceedings, and the latter of which is (at least formally) an original action for a writ from the appellate court. Is there something to the idea that a court of appeals may not be limited to the record in issuing extraordinary writs and equitable relief in precisely the same way they are limited in appeals (which are in the nature of Writs of error or certiorari)? After all, in the equitable/extraordinary context, we're not reviewing legal error except as it pertains to entitlement to other collateral relief directly from the court of appeals. In doing so, the court must in any event consider equities that may not have been at issue in the district court. For example, in mandamus, couldn't a court consider evidence outside the record in determining whether alternative relief is available? Or on a stay, evidence of imminent harm perhaps tangential to the merits of the claim on which the district court granted relief?

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